By Mark Swarbrick
The Trinity and Deity of Christ are the two Christian doctrines that nearly all cults are unanimous in denouncing. These dogmas are of such prime important that Satan goes to special effort to obfuscate and denigrate them. Whether it be the Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Science, Oneness Pentecostalism or what-have-you, they all deny one or both of these biblical teachings.
Orthodox historic Christianity for two thousand years has maintained the doctrine of the Trinity and the Deity of Christ. Those who deny it are a small cultic minority. They will of course claim that all of Christendom has apostatized for these millennia and that their little group has finally got it right. When you hear that line, know that you are talking to a cultist. Jesus said, “I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” (Matthew 16:18) According to the cultist, Jesus let his Church be overpowered for two thousand years. Unscriptural and unlikely, to say the least.
Christianity, from the time of the apostles, has maintained that God consists of a trinity of persons. These personages are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and that together they compose the Godhead. That is not to say that it takes all three together to be God. The doctrine, as taught by scripture, teaches that the Father is God, Jesus is God, and the Holy spirit is God. They are each divine whether considered separately or together. In other words, God is not like a chemical composite, such as gunpowder, which is not itself unless the three chemicals of potassium nitrate, sulfur and charcoal are all combined. Rather the three persons are all divine on their own and yet God is one entity, one unit, one substance, but three persons. Furthermore, these persons are distinct: The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, The Holy Spirit is not the father, yet they are all one.
The problem people have with this is that there is no perfect match in nature that we can compare it to. It can be hard to comprehend something when there is no comparable model for a frame of reference. God is, in fact, unique, and we should expect Him so. However, there are some imperfect analogies that do help. An egg is one example. One egg has three parts: Yoke, white, and shell. If you get some of the yolk on your face, you would say you have egg on your face. You would not say you have part of an egg on your face. The yoke is egg, the white is egg, the shell is egg. All together they are one egg, but separately they are also egg.
Another example would be the demon in Mark chapter 5. Scripture reports this: “When He got out of the boat, immediately a man from the tombs with an unclean spirit met Him.” Note it says the man had an unclean spirit. So keep that in mind, he has one demon. Jesus then asks the demon’s name. Again, the dialogue is referring to the demon in the singular. He answers, “’My name is Legion; for we are many’. And he began to implore Him earnestly not to send them out of the country.” Notice how in the spiritual realm it is possible for there to be many demons congregated together as one unit, such that it refers to itself as one entity, a demon that responds with, “my name is…”
How often have we seen a science fiction film where some alien is a collection of entities into one being? Every viewer gets it: “Oh yea, it is totally different from what we know on earth. That’s why it is ‘out of this world.’” No one has a problem understanding that concept when its science fiction. But try to explain that God is so different, so far above our comprehension, that he is three-in-one, then many people get myopia and just refuse to see it.
Now the analogies above are, as I have stated, imperfect. God is not an egg or a demon, but the analogies help some to think out of the box, which is necessary when considering the Omnipotent Almighty God of the universe. The fact that the nature of his being is not plain and simple to mere humans is evidence that the God revealed in scripture is indeed mysterious and almighty. A god who was not transcendent to our total understanding would seem small and simple, as though created by the thoughts of man. The God of the Bible is anything but that, for he has revealed his true nature to be the one Triune God.
There is one God that is three in one. That is the doctrine of the trinity. Where is the proof of this? It is simply this. We believe in a triune God because of these facts: The Bible teaches there is only one God. It also teaches that the Father is God. It also states that Jesus is God, and finally it asserts that the Holy Spirit is God. It also teaches that the three persons of the trinity are distinct personages, not just God morphing Himself into various forms.
The only logical conclusion for a thinking person to make is that there is one God, a trinity, consisting of the persons of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. This is what the apostles believed and is what the Christian Church has asserted for over 2,000 years. From the very beginning the Deity of Christ and the Trinity were doctrines of the Church, beginning from when Jesus gave the Great Commission: “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit…” (Matthew 28:19)
Let us know examine the biblical evidence for all that I have said.
There is Only One God
Isaiah 43:11 declares, “Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me. ‘I, even I, am the LORD, and there is no savior besides Me.’”
Isaiah 44:6 says, “Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me.’”
1 Corinthians 8:6 reads, “there is but one God…”
God is a Plurality of Persons
The fact that God is a plurality is alluded to in the Old Testament.
“Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image…” (Genesis 1:26)
“Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil…” (Genesis 3:22)
“Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” (Genesis 11:7)
“Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, ‘Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?’ Then I said, ‘Here am I. Send me!’” (Isaiah 6:8)
The cultists answer to these passages is to claim that God is talking to the angels. However, God cannot be talking to angels because in scripture God says, “I, the Lord, am the maker of all things.” The angels did not participate in the creation. Furthermore, if the “us” refers to God and angels, then God must have created man in the image of angels. But this cannot be so, for scripture elucidates further by declaring in Genesis 1:27, “God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them…” If the cultist was correct this should read that God created man in the image of himself and the angels, but it does not so read.
Another cultic dodge is to claim that in these passages God is using hyperbole by speaking with a plural sense to express royalty. And as far as there being a royal manner of speaking that involves using a plural sense, well, there is no example of that in scripture, or in Jewish history. There is no record of a king ever expressing royalty by referring to himself in plural rather than singular form. The whole idea is a concocted evasion of the plain sense of scripture that no reputable scholar maintains.
The Father is God
1 Corinthians 8:6 tells us, “there is but one God, the Father…” No one really discounts that the Father is God, so this should be sufficient.
The Son is God
Everyone who knows the Christmas story is familiar with Isaiah 9:6. It is an Old Testament prophecy of the 1st coming of Jesus. It reads, “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” Notice that it calls Jesus “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.”
John 1:1,14 calls Jesus God, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”
Titus 2:13 says that we are, “looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus…”
John 20:28 is conclusive: “Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.” (What did Thomas believe? He believed that Jesus was Lord and God. Jesus acknowledges that Thomas is finally a believer. Jesus goes on to say that even more blessed are those who believe in Christ’s deity without having seen him after the resurrection.)
Matthew 1:23, “Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which translated means, ‘God with us.’
Hebrews 1:8, “But of the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever…’”
Colossians 1:15-19, “He is the image of the invisible God…by Him all things were created…it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him…”
“Have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage…” Philippians 2:5-6
The discourse shown below between Philip and Jesus in John 14:8-10 confirms the matter beyond doubt.
Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? “Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me?
In the above passage, we find that Jesus is taken aback by Philip’s request to see the Father. He chides him saying, “yet you have not come to know me, Philip?” Clearly Jesus is laying claim to deity.
In the passage of John 5:18 shown below, the Apostle John writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, says that Jesus was “equal with God.”
For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
Note that it does not say that the Jews merely thought Jesus was saying he was equal with God. John phrases it such that scripture agrees that indeed, Jesus was equal with the Father.
Now look what Jesus says in Mark 10:18, “And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.” In this passage Jesus is not saying that he himself is not good, but he is pointing out that if He is in fact truly completely good, then he must be God. In John 8:46 Jesus challenges anyone to show that he is not good: “Which one of you convicts Me of sin?” In Hebrews 4:15 we are told that Jesus was, “tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.” So Jesus was completely good, and therefore God.
Scripture warns clearly that no one is to be worshipped but God alone. “You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.” (Matthew 4:10). In the meeting between Peter and Cornelius we see again that scripture is adamant that only God is to be worshipped: “When Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell at his feet and worshiped him. But Peter raised him up, saying, ‘Stand up; I too am just a man.’ (Acts 10:25-26). In Revelation 22:8-9 we read, “I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. But he said to me, ‘Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God.’”
It is worth noting that the original Greek word used for worship in the passage above is proskynéō. It is the same word used in the passage below where Jesus received worship. The Bible says only God is to receive proskyneo and Jesus received it many times. This is important because Jehovah’s Witnesses have their own version of the bible which alters the text and says that Jesus only received “obeisance.” They translate that word as worship when the passage talks about God the Father, but when it refers to the Son, they translate it as obeisance. This is disingenuous to translate proskyneo differently in different places according to their own preconceived ideas, as if they knew better than the plain words of scripture, thus making the Bible say only what they want it to say. They insist that Jesus only received respect in these instances. That of course, does violence to the context and the very text itself. No other reputable translation but the Jehovah Witness’ New World Translation plays so fast and loose with the words of God.
The passages below show that Jesus willingly accepted worship (proskyneo):
“All will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.” (John 5:23)
“After coming into the house they saw the Child with Mary His mother; and they fell to the ground and worshiped Him.” (Matthew 2:11)
“And those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, ‘You are certainly God’s Son!’ (Matthew 14:33)
“And behold, Jesus met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshiped Him.” (Matthew 28:9)
“When they saw Him, they worshiped Him…” (Matthew 28:17)
“And he said, ‘Lord, I believe.’ And he worshiped Him.” (John 9:38)
Only God is to be worshipped and Jesus accepted worship, many times, with never a rebuke to anyone for doing so. We are left with only two choices: Jesus sinned by accepting worship or he is in fact, God.
The Holy Spirit is God
The cultist will view the Holy Spirit as some sort of impersonal force that emanates from God. However, the Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a person, the third member of the triune godhead.
In Acts 5:3-4 Peter confronts Ananias and says, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit…?” I submit that you cannot lie to a force, you can only lie to a person. Peter goes on to say to Ananias, “You have not lied to men but to God.” In the context, Peter is equating the Holy Spirit with God, using the words interchangeably.
In 1 Corinthians 2:10 we see that the Holy Spirit thinks and knows, “no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.” Ephesians 4:30 tells us, “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God…” An impersonal force cannot think or know and certainly cannot be grieved. Grief is an attribute of personhood.
Modalism
Something should be said about the false doctrine known as modalism, which is an attempt to reduce the almighty invisible transcendent God into something that man feels more comfortable with. This theory states that God simply manifested himself in different “modes,” or forms. Sometimes he was the Father, other times the Son, and sometimes the Holy Spirit.
This concept is certainly easier for the human mind to comprehend, but it’s simplicity does not prove veracity. This concocted concept makes Jesus’ prayers to the Father absurd and renders much of scripture nonsensical. Consider the following passage below, found in John 17:1-12, and realize how preposterous the whole discourse becomes if Jesus and the Father are the same person.
Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. “I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do. “Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You gave Me out of the world; they were Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. “Now they have come to know that everything You have given Me is from You; for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me. “I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours; and all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine; and I have been glorified in them. “I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You Holy Father…”
If modalism is true, numerous conundrums are created by this passage alone. How can the Son glorify the Father if they are the same person? How did Jesus glorify the Father in heaven if Jesus is the Father on earth also? How did Jesus share the Father’s glory before the world was? Also notice the constant contrast of the language between Jesus speaking of himself and of the father as two distinct persons. For example, “Everything You have given Me is from You; for the words which You gave Me I have given to them…” By all the rules of common grammar and the language of men, this is not an internal dialogue of Jesus talking to himself as the cultist would have us believe. The plain sense of the words, the plain English conveyed in the passage, is that the Father and the Son are distinct persons.
The importance of the Trinity is emphasized in 2 John 1:7-10:
For many deceivers have gone out into the world…Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him…”
Those who deny the Trinity do not have both the Father and the Son, and if you do not have both, you do not have God. That is what this scripture says. One of the reasons the Jewish leaders crucified Jesus was that he was claiming to be God. Jesus told them, “Unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins…” (John 8:24). The deity of Christ and the Trinity are not optional. They are not side issues. They are fundamental truths of Christianity. They are two of the cardinal doctrines that delineate between cultism and true Christianity.
Pastor Mark
For people to understand the Godhead, the trinity – they have to understand who they are – we are a trinity, we are a spirit, soul and body created in the image of God. Some people think just because the word trinity isn’t in the Bible – They believe that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not one. The word trinity just means 3 that are united as one.
The word trinity is derived from Latin trinitas, meaning “the number three, a triad, tri”. This abstract noun is formed from the adjective trinus (three each, threefold, triple), as the word unitas is the abstract noun formed from unus (one).
The scriptures prove that we are 3 in one.
I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Thessalonians 5:23).
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow (body), and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart (Hebrews 4:12).
Jesus is God in the flesh
Colossians 2:9, “For in him [Jesus] dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
If people would just read the Word of God and prove all things with the scriptures they won’t be led astray by what false teachers say. I’ve read your writings on JSM and agree with you totally. I do have a family member who is a born again believer that watches them and her personality has changed not for the good, at times she has become so nasty when you bring up scriptures that prove what they are saying and teaching are not true. So I will be buying your book Swaggartism. I’ve watched them off and on to see what they are teaching and how they talk and treat people who call in or send emails with questions. Now I know why I have this over overwhelming desire not to watched them, even tough my family member loves them and watches them all the time.
So thank you it all makes since now and it just isn’t me that sees what is going on at JSM. Satan loves using money and self-righteousness to destroy the the spiritual church – the Body of Christ
Matthew 24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
SO SAD!
Hi CJ, Thanks for your comment. All that you said is right on. I’m glad you are getting my new book on Swaggartism. You observation about your family member who follows Swaggart having a personality change – that is so common that it is uncanny. Definitely a bad spirit there at JSM. You should see the hate mail I get. You just can’t politely disagree with a Swaggarite or they will pronounce you damned to hell and in cahoots with the Antichrist. One guy just told me that Swaggart doesn’t say you have to follow his teaching to be saved, and in the next sentence told me I was going to hell because I didn’t follow Swaggart! Thanks for your comment. God bless!
…Pastor Mark
Hi Pastor Mark
Well hang in there and remember not to take what people say to you personal they are just fiery darts from the evil one. I know sometimes it’s hard and it hurts, but Luke 6 says 27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
Romans 12 : 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
So hang in there and keep praying for our brothers and sisters who are being deceived by false teachers and churches. Pray that they have a overwhelming desire to read the word for themselves and that Holy Spirit opens their eyes so they know who the Harlot is and who her many daughters are so they can come out of them before it is too late.
God Bless!
Thanks CJ, You have a good heart. I appreciate your encouragement. God bless!
…Pastor Mark
Hi Pastor Mark
I understand the Trinity and I see what you are trying to get at. I am not criticizing, but the egg might be a bit confusing. The yolk, the white and the shell are each one piece of the same object. Three parts making up a whole. The Trinity does not have parts. The way I see the Trinity is that they are not three parts making up a whole. Each one of them are all of them all of the time?
Hi Frances, all analogies of the Trinity fail as some point, which is because God is so big, so magnificent that He is transcendent beyond our full comprehension. The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all fully God in their own right, yet all three together constitute the Triune Godhead. God bless and Merry Christmas!
…Pastor Mark
Hi Pastor Mark
Yes, that was what I was trying to say. God the father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, are not three parts making a whole, they are each a whole making one. Each of them is all of them all of the time. Whereas, a shell is not also the yoke and the egg white – they are three separate things. Sorry, wasn’t meaning to undermine your example.
Merry Christmas
Hi Frances, I will just add: However, it is important know that there is that which is the Son, which is distinct from the Father, the Father is distinct from the Son, and the same can be said for the Holy Spirit. In other words, they are not three different manifestations of God (modalism) but are three distinct persons within the one triume Godhead. The ATHANASIAN CREED lays it out…
For the Father is one person, the Son is another, and the Holy Spirit is another.
But the Godhead of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is one: the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.
Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit:
the Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, the Holy Spirit uncreated;
the Father infinite, the Son infinite, the Holy Spirit infinite;
the Father eternal, the Son eternal, the Holy Spirit eternal.
And yet there are not three Eternals, but one Eternal,
just as there are not three Uncreated or three Infinites, but one Uncreated and one Infinite.
In the same way, the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, the Holy Spirit almighty;
and yet there are not three Almighties but one Almighty.
So the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God;
and yet there are not three Gods, but one God.
So the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, the Holy Spirit is Lord;
and yet there are not three Lords, but one Lord.
Just as we are compelled by the Christian truth to acknowledge each distinct person as God and Lord, so also are we prohibited by the catholic* (universal) religion to say that there are three Gods or Lords.
The Father is not made nor created nor begotten by anyone. The Son is neither made nor created, but begotten of the Father alone.
The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son, neither made nor created nor begotten but proceeding. Thus, there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits.
And in this Trinity none is before or after another; none is greater or less than another;
but the whole three persons are coeternal with each other and coequal so that in all things, as has been stated above, the Trinity in Unity and Unity in Trinity is to be worshiped.
Hi Pastor Mark
Thankyou for expanding it for me. Yes, I do understand, it really is what I was meaning. Overall, that 3 wholes make one, because they are not 3 parts, but 3 distinct entities, but of course related, making one. The way I put it could be misinterpreted as 3 of each, but no I did not mean that the way it may have sounded.
Your explanation above is about the best I have heard since I learned it in 1986, when my closest friend (Catholic) explained it to me. It is hard to explain it to people if they have not been taught it as a child, but I do understand. I understand the full meaning now in the way you have put it.
Thankyou
Frances
I had another look at it, just to make sure I understand. So when Jesus was on earth and before and since, he is all of Jesus, but also all of God the Father and all of the Holy Spirit and each of them are all of themselves and all of each other at the same time, but there is only one of each of them. But, say, God is all of himself as God, but is also all of himself in the other two and each of them are all of themselves in all three. They are all complete, not parts and together they make one.
This is easier to conceptualise in your head than to explain with language.
Do you think I understand it then?
Frances
Hi Frances, That sounds right. Here is an excerpt from a statement of faith I adhere to. It is from the Assemblies of God website:
a. Terms Defined
The terms “Trinity” and “persons” as related to the Godhead, while not found in the Scriptures, are words in harmony with Scripture, whereby we may convey to others our immediate understanding of the doctrine of Christ respecting the Being of God, as distinguished from “gods many and lords many.” We therefore may speak with propriety of the Lord our God who is One Lord, as a trinity or as one Being of three persons, and still be absolutely scriptural.
Matthew 28:19 [KJV/NIV]
2 Corinthians 13:14 [KJV/NIV]
John 14:16-17 [KJV/NIV]
b. Distinction and Relationship in the Godhead
Christ taught a distinction of Persons in the Godhead which He expressed in specific terms of relationship, as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but that this distinction and relationship, as to its mode is inscrutable and incomprehensible, because unexplained.
Luke 1:35 [KJV/NIV]
1 Corinthians 1:24 [KJV/NIV]
Matthew 11:25-27 [KJV/NIV]
Matthew 28:19 [KJV/NIV]
2 Corinthians 13:14 [KJV/NIV]
1 John 1:3-4 [KJV/NIV])
c. Unity of the One Being of Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Accordingly, therefore, there is that in the Father which constitutes him the Father and not the Son; there is that in the Son which constitutes Him the Son and not the Father; and there is that in the Holy Spirit which constitutes Him the Holy Spirit and not either the Father or the Son. Wherefore the Father is the Begetter, the Son is the Begotten, and the Holy Spirit is the one proceeding from the Father and the Son. Therefore, because these three persons in the Godhead are in a state of unity, there is but one Lord God Almighty and His name one.
John 1:18 [KJV/NIV]
John 15:26 [KJV/NIV]
John 17:11 [KJV/NIV]
John 17:21 [KJV/NIV]
Zechariah 14:9 [KJV/NIV]
d. Identity and Cooperation in the Godhead
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are never identical as to Person; nor confused as to relation; nor divided in respect to the Godhead; nor opposed as to cooperation. The Son is in the Father and the Father is in the Son as to relationship. The Son is with the Father and the Father is with the Son, as to fellowship. The Father is not from the Son, but the Son is from the Father, as to authority. The Holy Spirit is from the Father and the Son proceeding, as to nature, relationship, cooperation and authority. Hence, neither Person in the Godhead either exists or works separately or independently of the others.
John 5:17-30 [KJV/NIV]
John 5:32 [KJV/NIV]
John 5:37 [KJV/NIV]
John 8:17,18 [KJV/NIV]
Here is the website that came from…
https://ag.org/beliefs/statement-of-fundamental-truths
Thankyou Pastor Mark for taking the time setting out the information above for me. I had never heard of the Assemblies of God until I read about Jimmy Swaggart about two years ago. I only learned a week ago that there is an Assemblies of God Church in Glasgow I will definitely look at the website.
We may disagree on some things, but I trust what you tell me.
Hi Mark,
First thing people have to understand is that the salvation plan was already in God the Father’s plan before he created the foundation of this world. Our all knowing Father knew before he created man they were going to sin and and need a savior. God knew he was going to have to manifest himself in the flesh through Jesus and become a man to pay the price for the sins of men.
1 Timothy 3:16.
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Ephesians 1:3–4.
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world . . .
2nd – God is a tripartite — Father, Son and Holy Spirit — so man is three parts — body, soul and spirit.
3rd – I’m a woman – I am also a daughter, wife and mother – this doesn’t mean I am 3 different people, but have 3 different roles as a woman. This is who our one and only true living God is. We all know that God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. If you read the scriptures you know he also has a soul because he said so.
Isaiah 1:14
14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my SOUL hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
If you read the scriptures you know that he is now visible to man, by becoming flesh in Jesus, the Father was invisible and became visible in Jesus
Now let’s look at the account of the birth of Jesus in Matthew 1:20. It says that “that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost”. So this wasn’t an eternal Son in the womb of Mary, and it wasn’t an angel, this was God’s Spirit entering into the womb of Mary and becoming human, becoming a man — the Son of God.
Father and Son are roles that God had fulfilled. And Holy Spirit is simply referring to His Spirit. In Isaiah 43:11, God says that He’s the Lord, and beside Him there is no Savior. God took all of the prophecies in the Old Testament about the Son and the Messiah, and stepped right into them, and became the Son and the Messiah Himself.
God was able to do that because He was both Spirit and flesh at the same time. Jesus was both God and man, both Father and Son, at the same time. He was God according to His divinity, His Spirit. And He was man according to His humanity, His flesh. It was Spirit and flesh coming together, and bridging the gap between God and man, to bring us all together unto Himself through Christ. He became our Mediator
But God’s Spirit is not confined to just that physical body. God’s Spirit is everywhere, and fills all the earth and all of heaven. So God was in Christ, and in all the earth, and in all of heaven, all at the same time. So God was able to function as the Father in Spirit and function as the Son in bodily form by His Spirit at the same time. Just like He’s able to fill His people with His Spirit and be everywhere on earth and in heaven, and in His physical body in heaven, all at the same time.
Even John the Baptist in his mother’s womb knew that Mary was carrying God in her womb.
Luke 1: 41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Even Satan knew that Jesus was God the Father when he tempted him in the wilderness.
God – is our Father, Savior (Son) and Comforter (Holy Spirit) One God – three different roles. He has a spirit, soul and body and he is sitting on the throne. He is not 3 different deities
Revelation 4:2, says, “And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne”. In heaven, we won’t see two or three thrones or two or three persons. We’ll only see one throne with one person sitting in the throne, Jesus, who is God all in all.
Isaiah 42: 8 “I AM” the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. This proves that God the Father is not going to give his glory to another, so he’s not going to give it to 2nd person in a trinity. Jesus is the Father in the flesh. Because our Father is not liar and he isn’t Indian giver.
The Father, creator of this world gave it to man to have dominion over it, man turn around and gave it to Satan when they sin against God. God had to come as a man (Jesus) and pay the debt for man’s sin and take back what they gave to Satan. “It is Finished” Satan is already a defeated foe in the spiritual world and he will be defeated in the natural world in the end.
Matthew 6:10
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Our Father is awesome God! His Love for us is beyond words – that he would lower himself, become a man and die for us and offer it as a free gift when we don’t deserve it – is truly amazing!