The Swaggart Seduction
An In-depth Analysis of the teachings and aberrations of Jimmy Swaggart Ministries
The Swaggart Cult
What Swaggart Said About Cults and What He Says Now About His Revelation
A Cultic Tactic: “Touch Not God’s Anointed!”
How cults use scare tactics to try to deflect a Biblical examination of their false prophet
How to Recognize A False Prophet – Part 1
Witnessing Part 1
Witnessing Part II – The Do’s and Don’ts
Touch Not God’s Anointed – A Cultic Tactic
Hitler Decides to be a TV Evangelist
The Mystery of the 7th Kingdom
Apathy from Mark Swarbrick on Vimeo.
Sermon – Pastor Mark Preaching at Phoenix Dream Center
Pastor Mark Teaching History in 4th Grade at American Heritage Academy – 02/24/2022
I have a question about what you wrote in your article titled: “Swaggartism: What Harm?” In the section titled “Sanctification Slowed”, in the 5th paragraph, you wrote:
“See my article on this site about Sanctification.”
My question is: Where is that Santification article – I can not find it anywhere on your web site. Please send me the link via return email.
Here is the link to the article: https://www.christiananswerman.com/swaggartism-what-harm/
“Swing and a miss” – the question that I asked was:
“…in your article titled: “Swaggartism: What Harm?” In the section titled “Sanctification Slowed”, in the 5th paragraph, you wrote:
“See my article on this site about Sanctification.”
My question is: Where is that Sanctification article? – I can not find it anywhere on your web site. Please send me the link via return email.
But you pointed me back to THE SAME ARTICLE I asked you about – YOU wrote in the second sentence of paragraph 5: “See my article on this site about Sanctification.”
If you do have an article on sanctification as you wrote, please send me the link via return email. I hope you do.
If you don’t have an article on sanctification, please delete the second sentence.
Hi Dennis, Thanks for the heads up on this. How strange, I can find no article on Sanctification either. I thought perhaps I wrote the article and forgot to put it in the menu, so I checked through the whole website. I can’t find such an article. I don’t know what happened. I either wrote the article and forgot to upload it, or I was writing it simultaneously with the article that mentions it, but then forgot to finish the article on Sanctification. I’ve been searching through my computer for the article. I have written several articles on sanctification over the years, but I am not sure which one I was going to post. I’m afraid I’ve reached the age where my forgetter works overtime! I have taken the sentence out of the article that references the article on sanctification until I can find my article and get it posted. Thanks again for bringing this to my attention. God bless!
Thanks for your prompt reply.
I too am of that age, but it is mice to know that I’m not the only one who “can’t find the milk carton in the frig”.
I assume that your salvation article will be soundly grounded in 2 Ptr 1:3-9. Those verses profoundly changed my understanding of what sanctification is and what True Christian Love is to be. Nothing in the dictionary even hints at what love is, only the Bible in those verses.
I’ll be watching for your sanctification article.
Pastor Mark, my son shared your site’s with me. My sister and her husband are Swaggert followers and believers. They tithe to his television ministry, this is their Church now. I didn’t realize the danger in following Jimmy Swagger, but I do now. My son and I are committed to learning all we can about the Swaggert Ministry in the hopes of sharing with my sister and husband that they might understand and see the truth. Please pray for us that with the Lord’s help to open their eyes and Find the truth again. I pray God may use us to help facilitate this. I pray with God’s words we can help show them the truth. Even if it is for us to only plant the seed. I pray they will be reached. Thank you for sharing what you have learned. It has lit a fire in my soil!
Hi Tina, Thanks for your comment. I will certainly be praying for you as you minister to your sister and her husband. I will be praying for them as well. Keep me posted on how it goes. It can be very difficult to reach someone who has been swallowed up by the Swaggart cult, but I have seen it happen. With God all things are possible. I highly recommend that you get my book Swaggartism. Not only do you need to read that cover to cover but at some point you will want to order one for your sister. Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087SGSR8H/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1588448697&sr=1-1
Thanks for writing. I am here to help in any way I can. God bless,
Two things here I think need mentioned. First of all you keep bringing up his past. My bible tells me that when we repent (and I know that only God knows for sure), and Jimmy says he has, then we are a new creation and no sins are remembered, How would you like to have every sin you ever committed being constantly brought back and re-hashed over and over again.
Second thing was a tirade that one individual said that the Sonlife network didn’t do outreach work. They constantly raise money to send bibles all over the world (FREE) to pastors everywhere. The reach more people worldwide with the simple salvation message of salvation in Christ alone by faith. Not to mention the prison ministries and local outreaches in Baton Rouge.
Concerning Jimmy Swaggart’s past sins: Jesus said, “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits…Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” The teaching of our Lord is that as part of examining a doctrine for its veracity we should include an examination of the life of the teacher. If they are a false prophet or false teacher there will be bad fruit evidenced in their life.
That is why it is important to have a knowledge of Jimmy Swaggart’s past. If he was just a normal Bible teacher or pastor of a church, teaching sound Biblical doctrine, then this would not matter. His past, if repented of, is forgiven and forgotten and doesn’t need to be brought up.
But for someone who claims to be an end-time apostle with a special revelation greater than the Church has known before, and who condemns most all other churches as false, then it behooves us to take a close look at his life, both past and present.
His sins, if repented, were in the sea of forgetfulness, but his own claims to special superior prominence have dredged them back up. Swaggarites bitterly complain and condemn anyone who examines Swaggart’s life but the fact is Jesus commanded us to examine the fruit in order to confirm someone as a false teacher and we must do so whether anyone likes it or not. The fact of the matter is that just because someone says they repented does not mean they have. The fruit of their life needs to be examined to see if they are exhibiting the deeds of the flesh instead of the fruit of the spirit. To anyone who has done an honest inquiry, the answer is obvious. The deeds of the flesh have been exhibited in Swaggart’s life for quite some time.
Incidentally, examining the fruit does not mean that we are to consider how much money he has or how successful he is or how big his cult has grown. Swaggarites point to this as proof that Jimmy is a true apostle of God. If having riches, a large following, and great influence is God’s stamp of approval, then we should all join the Mormon cult. No, examining the fruit means rather to reflect upon whether his life is abundant with the fruit of the Spirit, or if it exudes the deeds of the flesh.
When a person genuinely repents, we can expect to see the fruit of that repentance. In Jimmy’s case we did not see it. After his public profession of repentance for being caught having sex with prostitute Debra Murphree in 1988, he was caught by police two more times after that. He was caught in 1991 and again 1995. He made no expression of repentance but instead told his church it was none of their business.
Down through the years right up to the present there has been one scandal after another. If you are really interested in examining the fruit as Jesus commanded, then you should order my book Swaggartism from Amazon and read about the Court cases, the plagiarism, the defamation suit, the print shop scandal, the murdered widow’s inheritance swindle, the land scandals, the misappropriation of children funds and the grand jury murder investigation that Jimmy Swaggart Ministries has been involved in.
You asked, how would I like people examining my life, or something to that effect. Well, if I were claiming to be THE last day apostle to restore the church, and was saying that I alone have the true gospel, and that all other churches but mine were apostate, and if I said that I had a new revelation, that God spoke to me and that I had a secret encoded message from God that is greater than anything in all of church history, even more light than what the Apostle Paul had, then I would fully expect the Church to examine every area of my life. Jimmy Swaggart is claiming all those ridiculous things and it should be expected his fruit will be examined.
The double-standard of Swaggarites is noteworthy. They condemn anyone that Jimmy Swaggart puts his sites on and accuse decent ministers of being heretics and saying they are not saved, yet when anyone speaks against Swaggart they call it unloving, unforgiving and unchristian.
As far as him sending Bibles out…that is not a ministry he is doing. That is him selling Bibles. He doesn’t give those away. He makes a big show of sending them, but he gets people to send in the money to send them. If they don’t send the money, he doesn’t send them. And he makes a huge profit on those Bibles.
You say “they reach more people worldwide…” More people than who? Are you saying he is the greatest preacher anywhere? Sounds like it. Sounds like pride. Do you have proof that he reaches more people than anyone else? What proof do you have? Jimmy Swaggart saying so on TV doesn’t make it true. And the people he does reach he fills them full of his dangerous false teaching.
Now as to his prison ministry and local outreaches. I am aware of none. The pastors in Baton Rouge know of none. Even local ministers in Baton Rouge, the capital of Louisiana where Swaggart’s Family Worship Center is located, have concerns about this odd church in their community. BusinessReport.com has an article that describes the concern local pastors have concerning Jimmy Swaggart’s church in Baton Rouge:
“They don’t fraternize with other church leaders in the Capital Region, and Jimmy and Donnie don’t attend regular, monthly prayer breakfasts with a group of more than a dozen local Evangelical ministers…they don’t participate in community events, and the money they raise through the ministry doesn’t appear to go to any needy causes in the Baton Rouge area, or anywhere for that matter… Swaggart has made many enemies in this town over the years. Some of the grudges are related to business deals that went bad and ended up in court.”
Rev. David Diamond, pastor of the Redeeming Life Church in Baton Rouge, who has known Swaggart for decades says,
“Every time you turn around, they’re selling something…Did you ever hear of a Jimmy Swaggart unwed mothers’ home? A program for drug offenders? An orphanage? What have they built in Baton Rouge to help the hurting? Zero.”
So if he is now actually doing something good in his local community, that is a welcome change. Do you personally know for a fact he is actually doing any local outreach? I hope the Swaggarts have not convinced you to quit your local church. The Bible commands us not to forsake the assembling of ourselves together.
One last thing: You mentioned that Swaggart is reaching people “with the simple salvation message of salvation in Christ alone by faith.” If only that were true. He has twisted the simple message of salvation by faith in Christ alone into having “faith exclusively in the cross.” His words, not mine. His message is that all churches are evil except his and that he is a great man of God. Its all about Jimmy instead of Jesus. He has added to the message another requirement for salvation, saying in order to stay saved you must follow him. That is a denial of salvation by grace. That is salvation by works. All this is documented in my book.
Thanks for your comment and I hope this information is helpful to you.
Swaggart expositor’s 1 Tim 3:2 says about the qualifications (these are qualities, and not qualifications as some claim). Mine bibles in captions call them qualifications. Changing qualifications to qualities makes Jimmy look like he is qualified. He knows he isn’t qualified according to 1 Tim 3:2, so he willingly rewrites the sacred words of the bible. Rev 22:18-19 I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Jimmy needs to repent for rewriting the bible.
Hi Pastor Mark,
Not sure about the above. I have absolutely never heard JS say people must follow him to be saved. At almost every televised service he says to the congregation, “I’m not asking you to join our church”
I have never heard him call any church evil, what he is concerned with is that the “church” as a whole has lost its way. I have to say I know very many people who believe in God and Jesus, but never go to church and I would include Catholics, Anglicans and many others in this. If the “church” hadn’t lost its way, many more people would attend surely.
Also, as I’ve said to you before, what he means by the cross, is what Jesus did at the cross – dying to save everyone else – I have heard him say several times. ” I’m not meaning a wooden structure”.
I think its great that your book has been published and you have obviously researched JS a lot more than I have and I disagree with JS over several issues, but I don’t like anyone being wrongly accused. When I hear him say the things I have mentioned, I will note the source and get back to you.
Hi Frances, I think things will become more clear to you as you work your way through my book. If you will take a look at this article: and scroll down to the third video in the article you will see Swaggart teach that your salvation is based upon who listen to and that you must listen to a cross preacher – someone who echoes his false message of the cross revelation – or you are not saved. Check it out. Also go here: scroll down to The Swaggart Cult video. Therein you will see where Swaggart says the most important part of the Gospel is only available through him. These two videos together show you – in Swaggart’s own words – that he is teaching salvation is only in him and the truth is only in him.
Concerning the cross – no one is saying that Swaggart means a wooden structure when he says cross. That is a straw man they set up. The point is, does the Bible say to put your faith exclusively in the cross? No it does not. Read my article here for clarificiation:
Hi Pastor Mark
I am still reading your book, but I just wanted to tell you that I came across another article you had written which has cheered me up no end and left me quite relieved. I want to comment on it, but couldn’t find anywhere to put it, but here.
I read your article on Trump and completely agree with it. I was relieved because in the UK, people believe that the “bible belt” (no disrespect, that’s just what we call it) in the Southern States all follow Trump and vote for him and we cant understand how they and he can be described as Christian. I have heard religious people here call him the Anti-Christ. However, he would need intelligence for that and he certainly hasn’t got any. I do, however, think he is evil and is currently sacrificing his people by the drivel he speaks about the virus. No one I know here believes he had Covid. One cannot be on oxygen and the highest drugs in hospital and then recover in 3 days and before then get driven about everywhere in a car to wave at people. It was an election stunt and to say God has blessed him by letting him have the virus, counts as blasphemy.
He has almost finished the “special relationship” which we are told we have with the USA and we regret very much that he is half-Scottish. Your article was probably written before he was first elected, but I’ve just read it and I know your election is very soon, on 3rd November. Covid may be attacking us all over the world, but your President is more dangerous than Covid I believe. So I want to wish America well for the election and sincerely hope he is not re-elected. If the Democrats get in (I know you don’t like them either), I will truly be able to say, “God bless America”. Now I must get back to reading your book. Thank you for reading.
Hi Frances, I voted for Ted Cruz in the primary four years ago. Cruz is a born-again Christian and would have made and excellent president. Trump won the primary, so I had to vote for Trump in the general election because I would never vote for a Democrat, especially not for Crooked Hillary. She should be in prison for the billions of dollars in bribes she has accepted from foreign governments. The Democratic Party is the party of evil. In fact, I am writing a book about them entitled, Party of Evil: The Reprehensible History of the Democratic Party. I could never vote for a party that murders babies, supported slavery, opposed civil rights, supported the Ku Klux Klan, started a civil war, supports the wicked sin of homosexuality, transgenderism and lesbianism, promotes open borders and wants to do away with all fossil fuel, not to mention the Democrats terrible record on the environment.
President Trump surprised me. He has been one of the best presidents we have ever had. He has kept all his promises and has done so much good for America. The list is long. You can see it here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/ He is finally getting us out of these endless foreign wars that previous presidents have entangled us in. Thank the Lord!
Of course I will vote for Trump again. The recent discovery of Biden’s son’s laptop and the email proves that Biden is a criminal. He has been taking billions of dollars in bribes from Russia, China and Ukraine. It has all been proven.
Concerning his rapid Covid recovery – there is nothing unusual about that. Many people contract covid and don’t even have symptoms and they never know they even had it. That is common. Trump is in excellent health for his age. Doesn’t even take any medicines and only needs a few hours sleep each night. He is amazing. They gave him the very best medicines immediately, one of which was REGENERON, which supplies the body with antibodies against the virus. It is an instant cure if given early.
I don’t like everything that Trump says, but I sure like what he does. He has helped American so much, and he does it all for free. He doesn’t even take a salary. Finally we have a president that can’t be bought off. And in his personal life, it has come out now, all his life Trump has been very generous with his money in helping others. One time, a guy stopped to help change the tire on his limo. Trump paid off the mortgage on his house. Whenever he hears a sad story about somebody struggling, he helps.
And he stopped the Johnson Amendment. Leftist politicians were forcing pastors to submit their sermons for review and if they didn’t like what they heard they were going to use the Johnson Amendment to tax churches into non-existence. Trump stopped all that. He is the only president that ever tried to deal with that problem. He has supported Israel and the Church like no other president ever has.
I’m glad your are reading my book on Swaggartism. Thanks for commenting. Have a blessed day.
P.S. Most of what you are being told about Trump is a lie. Most news outlets are liberal and support leftist socialism. If you want to hear the truth about Trump you can only get it from One America News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mike Levin, and somewhat from Fox News, although they are turning liberal also. You will be sure to want to read my next book: Party of Evil.
I am sorry Pastor Mark, but you have shocked me. All of Europe and Canada know that Trump is a very dangerous Nazi. We are not going on what we are told, but on what we see and I am wondering how on earth can any Christian be favourable toward a man who uses filthy language about women; who leers at them and when meeting a ten year old girl openly discloses fantasies about sex with her when she reaches 18; who publicly makes fun of someone with cerebral palsy who is trying to speak to him; who constantly interupts the opposition candidate in an attempt to make him start stammering, knowing that he has suffered from this and overcome it through his own hard efforts; who comes to another country and steps in front of our Queen, an old lady in her 90s, almost pushing her out the way; who takes our previous PM by the hand in a sleazy fashion; who builds a wall between human beings; who turns this deadly virus into an excuse for an attack on the country of China and is rude to individual Chinese people; who has lost the respect of other countries for America; has left millions of Americans without work and a huge percentage of them dead; who is responsible for American people dying because he told them to drink bleach. I could go on for many hours and I am beginning to wonder if you are just sending me up because I cannot find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus abuses women or the disabled or uses filthy language, or is racist. You are accusing JS of misdemeanors which go nowhere near the evil spouted by Trump. The man has the level of development of a 2 year old child and a psychopathic and narcissistic personality disorder. Additionally, he is quite stupid and would never get into any of our universities. On top of all that, he got rid of Obama care which could have given proper medical treatment to the millions in USA who live beneath the poverty line and then thinks he can steal our health system. Well Hands Off! I wouldn’t even want him to get medical care if he collapsed here on one of his obnoxious visits and I certainly wouldn’t provide any security for him, which cost us millions the last time he turned up.
In the UK, freedom of speech does not mean we can abuse each other with action or words which incite racial hatred or any other kind of discrimination. Freedom of action does not mean people can shoot whoever they like and torture a man to death by kneeling on his neck just because they wear a uniform. If Trump gets in again, I can see good American people turning up here for asylum in the UK. And you can stop being abusive about gay people. You probably don’t know, but it has been found that scientifically being gay has a physical cause. Gays are born that way. God created genetics, so you think its okay to criticize God’s work. Today the Pope has publicly welcomed same sex civil partnerships because he understands the subject. Thank God for that. And America does not understand what Socialism means. I am a Socialist and it means that all people are treated equally without reference to colour, faith, ability, class etc. It means wealth is divided equally and I know UK has along way to go in that respect, but we challenge the current set up where 7% of the population own 90% of the wealth. It also means protecting the vulnerable, the elderly, the disabled, the newcomers who have come for protection. Can you tell me what part of any of that would Jesus disapprove of? I don’t care whether you are Republican or Democrat, you are voting for the most dangerous man in the world. I was responding to what you had said about Trump before, so I now see you have fallen under his spell. I would vote for Donald Duck to be President before I would consider Trump. If you think Trump is alright, then go with him, but it means you are definitely NOT Christian.
I am not one to believe in conspiracy theories, but if Covid has been deliberately made as a weapon, then America are behind it. I was enjoying your book, but how can I read it now with any credulity? Maybe you are just winding me up for fun, as I cannot believe what you say you believe. If you do believe it, then you are in a political cult, brainwashed by a man who will probably destroy the rest of the world if he gets in again. I regret the day when the UK let the USA become a country. Trump is moaning about immigrants, what do you think he is? What do you think you are? American belongs to the Indians, the native people. I can’t trust anyone that supports Trump. You are believing in Trump’s fake news and you are no longer a Christian.
Hi Frances, I would like to answer each one of your allegations, all of which are based on misinformation. However, I simply don’t have the time. I am very busy writing my next book, plus making a living and raising a family, so time just doesn’t allow me. Perhaps at some point if I get caught up I can do that. What I will do is address your most serious error, which is your support of a grievous sin that God absolutely hates – the sin of homosexuality. Since I have a chapter in one of my previous books (End of Days) that deals with this, I will copy and paste that here. Your support of homosexuality is a sin that you will have to give account to God for. There is no way for a person to know the real Jesus and know their Bible and support such wickedness. I do hope you will prayerfully and seriously reconsider your position on that. Here is the excerpt from my book:
A Nation Adrift
Does anyone need convincing that America has slipped her moorings and is adrift in a sea of sin? America has been steadily drifting away from God for the past 70 years and the rate of departure from decency has been accelerating rapidly. The Bible makes it clear that God deals firmly with nations and cities that turn their back on Him. God punished the nation of Egypt, and the tribes that inhabited Palestine, as well as Sodom and Gomorrah, and even Israel herself. What sins were grievous enough to incite God’s wrath? Scripture lists two sins that were sure to bring about punishment from on high. We will discuss them both. The first one we shall consider is the sin of homosexuality.
Before we delve into what the Scripture says, I want to preface my remarks with this admonishment: Although there are homosexuals that became so out of their rejection of God, there are also young people that have been deceived and lured into that lifestyle. They are victims trapped by Satan. Jesus wants to set them free, and Christians need to be ever ready to witness with compassion and sincerity to them. These people don’t know what Jesus can do for them, and they won’t know unless we respond to them with love and mercy. Jude 1:23 says, “Save others by snatching them out of the fire; to others show mercy with fear, hating even the garment stained by the flesh.” We must ever be ready to love the sinner while hating the sin.
God utterly destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for their sins, chief of which was homosexuality. Proponents of homosexuality deny that sexual preference had anything to do with why those cities were destroyed. However, Scripture makes the reason clear. Jude 1:7 says, “Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them, which like them committed sexual sins and pursued homosexual activities…” (International Standard Version) The men of Sodom even wanted to rape the two angels that came to Lot’s home. Homosexuality and transgenderism have swept our country, indeed, the entire world. Sexual perversion has always been with us, but only in various places. Never before in history has the whole world – every nation – been swept into such a cesspool of debauchery. The sodomy that homosexuals engage in spreads the incurable AIDS virus, as well as hepatitis A and B. It also leads to anal incontinence, anal cancer, and other maladies. One in five homosexuals is infected with the deadly HIV virus that leads to AIDS. AIDS originated with homosexuals, and according to Human Life International, “85% of all new cases still occur in male homosexuals and bisexual men.” The Bible tells us that homosexual desire is a punishment from God that comes upon those who deny that God is our sovereign Creator:
“For the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse…Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie…For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done…Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.” (Romans 1:18-32)
This passage says that people became homosexuals because “they exchanged the truth of God for a lie.” What lie? The lie that there is no God, that man was not created by God but evolved by mere chance and accident from a primordial soup of chemicals billions of years ago. Many leftist liberal professors propagate this lie in our colleges across the nation. Both Charles Darwin and scientist Richard Dawkins admitted that believing in the theory of evolution led them to atheism. Our schools are producing a generation that no longer believes in God. Godless evolutionary theory and homosexuality are bedfellows. Scripture says that because they believe “the lie,” that “God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” When our universities teach atheism, we should not be surprised that homosexuality becomes rampant.
The fact that godlessness and homosexuality go hand in hand was recently demonstrated at the 2020 Democrat National Convention. “One nation under God” was intentionally removed from the Pledge of Allegiance in two of the convention’s meetings. Although the phrase was included in some of the televised meetings, it was removed in the LGBTQ Caucus meeting and the Muslim Delegates Assembly on the eighteenth of August.
In the LGBTQ meeting, the speaker made a long pause after “one nation” to emphasize that they were deliberately leaving out “under God.” It is certainly understandable that lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgenders, and queers don’t want anything to do with God, since they are steeped in sin. But it is disturbing that supposedly decent people running for political office would be so debased as to allow the denial of God and the corruption of a pledge that represents our traditional American legacy of recognizing the sovereignty and blessings of God over our nation. To deny that we are one nation under God is to deny the founding documents of our country, which verbally recognize that our rights and liberties are given by God. Our elected leaders take an oath of office declaring to support and defend our Constitution, concluding their oath with “so help me God.”
Democrats said they thought that mentioning God was insensitive and may trigger homosexuals across the country. When the omission was reported, politicians became concerned it might hurt their chances in the upcoming election. The omission was quickly denied by the mass media and liberal fact-checkers. The report of the omission was censored by Facebook and the Google search engine. Nevertheless, it happened, and the words of President Ronald Reagan are apropos: “If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
A few years ago, the United States Supreme Court proclaimed that men performing indecent sexual acts with other men could be recognized as Holy Matrimony. In celebration of that sacrilege, President Obama bathed the White House in rainbow colored lights. Leaders should be examples of virtue, not champions of perversion. Proverbs 14:24 says, “Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.”
Making a commitment to a sinful and sexually perverted, disease-spreading relationship does not equal the sanctity of God-ordained marriage between a man and woman. In short, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. God calls homosexual practice a transgression and a wicked abomination. Scripture says, “Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.” (Leviticus 18:22) 1 Corinthians 6:9 says, “Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals…will inherit the kingdom of God”
Today, if you own a business, the government forbids you from making your choice of an employee based upon “sexual orientation.” If you have a family-run business, you may not want a sexual deviate working around your kids, but the law says that sexual orientation cannot be a basis for not hiring someone. Perhaps a job applicant is a man who prefers men, or maybe his “orientation” is towards little boys or girls, or possibly goats. Maybe he is a man who make-believes he is a woman. The law says you can’t discriminate because of his sexual orientation. How absurd is that? In America you are forced to employ sexual deviates and have them around your family. If you own a bakery and you feel it violates your Christian beliefs to bake a cake in celebration of a so-called “same-sex marriage,” and you refuse, the law will take your business, your home, fine you into poverty, and if you can’t pay, off to jail you go. That is what is happening in America today. Someday God will say enough is enough. When? “When the transgressors are come the full.”
Some mainline denominations are even daring to ordain homosexuals to ministry. On Monday, August 17, 2009, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) gathered at the convention center adjacent to one of their churches, the Central Lutheran Church in Minneapolis. Their purpose was to consider a proposal that would allow members in homosexual relationships to serve as clergy, a proposal that was eventually approved. The meeting was to commence at 2:00 PM. At exactly 2:00 PM, a tornado, which is rare for Minneapolis, ripped the steeple from the church. This was more than coincidence. It was an act of God. Who then is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him? (Mark 4:41) Could that have been a display of God’s displeasure and perhaps a harbinger of judgment to come?
Frances, I hope you will see the light on this. If you cannot see what the Bible plainly says about this, then there is no point spending time trying to convince you of anything else. Praying for you.
Sir, you have lost your way and you talk absolute rubbish. I am a respectable 67 year old retired professional woman who has married twice – yes to a man. I have a very decent hard-working nephew who is married to a man. They are very happy, attend church and are willing to offer a home to an unwanted child. Most sex crimes are committed by heterosexual males – it is they that rape women and abuse children. As for anyone having intercourse with a goat, even thinking of that, let alone stating it, is a disgusting perversion on its own. I do not object to you disagreeing with the issue, but you have been rude and insulting. It is you that will answer to God for your hatred and discrimination about a group of human beings. I suppose you think it was alright then that six million Jews were murdered, just as long as the Nazis were not gay. I cannot present scientific or theological evidence to you on here, but I can suggest that you write to people who are important. The Anglican Church, the second largest denomination in the world carry out many same-sex marriages. Since this church is headed by the British Queen and the Archbishop of Canterbury, I suggest you take issue with them. The Pope, who heads the largest church in the world publicly stated yesterday that he accepts same-sex civil partnerships, so take it up with him too. I will offer you a word of advice – do not come to the UK and say what you have said here or you will definitely be arrested and tried for hate crime which carries a maximum sentence of ten years. In fact, I am now going to report this website as I may be breaking UK law in reading it. The people of every religion take it on and mix it with the culture they live in. A biblical example – do you think the animals went in two by two in the ark to be lunch and dinner for Mr and Mrs. Noah? Of course not. They went in to multiply their differing species because God valued them. But we know that the Jews and the Romans were big meat-eaters and because of this, people failed to realize that they should be vegetarian. I believe this, although it may be unconventional and I have been veggie since 1980. What I do not do, is start being abusive and spiteful to people who do not share my belief. The Bible can be interpreted in many different ways and some of those ways may belong to Satan. It seems you may have been hoodwinked and brainwashed from that direction. Let me tell you all of my friends and associates, some of whom are gay, are caring, loving generous people, who would not upset anyone. As to your country’s constitution, please can you provide the biblical references for me where it says Jesus met with the people, holding his gun; or which of the wise men brought the baby Jesus a revolver as a gift? All the changes that you disagree with in your country are happening because God is on the side of those who are right. God does not come tearing through countries with tornados, earthquakes, viruses or anything else. These things are happening because humans have been treating the world God has provided for them, with total greed and disrespect and America is one of the worst offenders. A President who doesn’t believe in global warming; a President who removes his country’s funding from the WHO when half the world are being maimed and killed by a deadly virus. Your country has been made into a laughing stock. I suppose next you’ll be burning people to death when they have a mental illness, believing them to be witches. I don’t know if its worth praying for you, as I’m not sure whether you need divine intervention or a psychiatrist. That the Evangelical world in the USA support Republicanism is a contradiction in terms in the first place; that they support Trump is an abomination and a blasphemy. You needn’t bother praying for me for God will not listen to your hatred. I might have to pray for myself to stop me losing my temper with you. I will join my family in Heaven when the time comes. You needn’t worry about meeting me, as you will not be there. I was hoping to discuss your book with you when I have finished it, seems no point now, you’re every bit as dangerous as your President. You are very clever in that you can use something only marginally relevant to divert attention from the main issue – the evil of your country’s leader. I will be praying for Biden on 03/11/20 in the hope that he can save America from any further degradation and wickedness.
Hi Frances, Wow. Sorry to hear you have gone off the deep end and will not listen to Scripture. I will not waste my time further. Since you hate America’s freedom and wish to embrace the sin of homosexuality, and insist you will never reconsider, this changes things. Jesus cautioned us not to present the truth to those who don’t wish to hear it. Until such a time as you can abide by the terms of this website, your comments will no longer post. Those terms are here: https://www.christiananswerman.com/about-posting-comments/
Please allow this post, as if I upset you, I apologize. It is obvious we are not going to agree on very much, but this is your website in your religion in your country and I should not have allowed our discussion to become personalised and dissolve into anger and for that, I am sorry.
I realize that our cultures are more different than I thought. Whilst UK and USA share many things, films, books, TV, etc, in many other respects, my culture is European and UK are much more similar to Western Europe. I do not hate America’s freedom, its just that we have a different definition of the word. In the UK we try to celebrate difference and it is against my own principles when I do not do so, even if the other person doesn’t. I feel that you accused me, but this was a result of some provocation on my part. I accept that some of the things I said in the last stage of my post, I should not have said.
With your permission, I will return later with some references and some responses to your book, which will be professionally presented and, I give you my word, not deteriorate into a quarrel. That kind of interaction never resolves any issue and I therefore regret what happened.
Please note I did not realise this had been posted and it wasn’t quite finished. You will find a fuller version in your email.
Hi Frances, apology accepted.
Thankyou Pastor Mark
Hi Pastor Mark
Can I come back now? Your book is excellent. I love your book. I am only up to chapter 9, but now I understand what you mean about the cross. It was your story of Spot that did it. Also,it never had occurred to me that JS said so little about what followed the crucifixion. I had realised that he says little about what went before, the Nativity, and noticed despite his Centre being a bit decorated, he was still talking about the cross at Christmas, which I thought was as bit odd.
I have been educating myself about the Assemblies Of God, not knowing what it really was. I have discovered there are over 500 churches in 70 locations in UK. There’s even one in the Shetland Isles. Amazing!
Are they the ones who ordain Pentecostal Ministers? Are they involved with any other sort of churches? Are you Pentecostal?
On the issue we could not agree on, I thought you were being prejudiced, you thought I was being sinful. I know the Bible cannot be added to, but as humankind becomes more advanced and mature in human development, I think everything is down to interpretation, particularly since it is this that creates denominations. I traced a source which explains how any two Christians can disagree so much. I therefore respectfully recommend to you the following website:
bibleandhomosexuality.org by Reverend Dr Johnathan Tallon (a very experienced Theologian). He goes into depth about language interpretation and how it affects subject meaning. I believe it is this sort of understanding that underpins both the RC Church and the Anglican Church these days.
I also researched “Freedom”. Article 70, Human Rights Act guarantees the “right to freedom of expression” in the UK. People cannot express something that incites racial hatred or action. Subsequent legislation includes religion, gender, sexual orientation and terrorism.
Ref: http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2020/18/14free-speech-laws-in-the-uk-an overview/ can explain it better than I can.
Then I found the First Amendment to the US Constitution which legislates for more or less the same thing. I had not known about this. I thought American freedom meant that, for example, someone could just walk up to Mr Obama and call him a racist name and nothing could be done about it-it would not be an offence. The laws are really not that different.
Finally, some of the UK will be sitting up late to watch your election results on 3/11. This is not because we don’t like America; it is because we are frightened for America and her people. We are also frightened for us : the last thing we want is conflict with or from America, especially since we have now left Europe, which from Scotland’s point of view, is an absolute madness. We have just learned that the UK PM is backing Biden, surprisingly, since Boris is a right-wing Tory and, less surprisingly, our First Minister will also back Biden. I think the comments you made in 2015 about Trump were spot-on. However I now conclude that when you as an individual go to vote, who you vote for is “flat none of my business”.
Thank you for your time in listening to me and I really hope you will keep this website going, especially since no one else is doing what you are doing. I accept that the purpose of your website is cult-watching and I have strayed from that purpose. I will read the rest of your book and I’m sure may have some questions. I have one now – why are you called a pastor, as is Gabe and the visiting pastors at JSM, whilst Jimmy is called “Brother” ?
I don’t know if I am posting in the right place, but I can’t see where else there is to go.
Hi Pastor Mark
Just wanted to say that I am reading everything you sent me and I thank you for your time in sending it. I am reviewing information from relevant sources and will get back to you at some point. I understand that you are busy with your new book, etc. and I promise to be concise.
I will also do a positive review for your book, once I have finished it, if you wish.
I reaffirm that I accept the premise, “Your website, your rules”.
We will never agree politically, but I wish you a happy election day.
Hi Pastor Mark
I have put my response to “Swaggartism” and my questions on the right page about your book. Need not bother with the comments above, unless you wanted to. Your website is about more important things than politics.