Swaggartism: What Harm?

By Mark W. Swarbrick

So Swaggart is off on some things. What does it hurt? Is he not still preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ? Are not people being saved through his ministry? What are the effects upon a person who becomes a follower and fan of Swaggart? What is the harm to someone who is caught up in Swaggartism?

Having a close family member caught up into Swaggartism and having studied the doctrine and reviewed testimonies of those coming out of Swaggartism, I believe I have identified five areas that are adversely affected in a person’s life if they embrace Swaggart’s teaching.

Fanaticism

They become a fanatic. Not for Jesus. That would be Ok. They become a fanatic for Jimmy Swaggart and his teaching; for his “Message of the Cross.” The level of fanaticism will vary depending upon one’s personality, but typically you will find that they harangue others over Swaggart’s “Crosstianity,” trying to get Christian friends and family to “convert” and “come to the cross.”

Consider the words of Swaggart and you can see how they will affect an impressionable mind. Swaggart says:

“The answer which you seek is found in the Cross! The solution which you seek is found only in the Cross! And that’s the problem with the modern Church; it is building doctrines on other foundations. You must come to the Cross! You must constantly make the Cross the object of your faith. The Cross will set you free. There is nothing before the cross and nothing after because there doesn’t need to be. The churches are in darkness because they don’t understand the cross like I do. I am of God.”

These are the words of Swaggart. Consequently you find Swaggarites saying things like: “The Cross has made all the difference in my life. The Cross has saved me and set me free. I love the Cross.” Instead of being fanatically in love with Jesus it’s all about the cross, with a capital C. The love and enthusiasm that they should have placed in Jesus, is placed in the cross. And by “cross,” they claim to mean the act of what Jesus did on the cross, not the wooden cross itself. That being the case, they are putting their faith in an action that was done, rather than in the one (Jesus) who did the act.

If you confront them on this, they deny it, saying that by the cross they simply mean Jesus and what he did on the cross. A pretty weak excuse for misplaced love. Words mean things, whether they like it or not. For you see Swaggart claims his message of the cross is different from what the average Christian believes and is different than what all the churches teach, thus, it is not possible for it to mean simply “Jesus and what he did on the cross.” The Church has always understood what Christ did on the cross, so they must mean something entirely different.

What they really mean is what Swaggart says, “The believer is ever to make the Cross the object of his faith,” and “There is nothing before the Cross and nothing after because there doesn’t need to be.” So in practice, they put an unhealthy and unbalanced emphasis on the cross which detracts from Christ and the resurrection and they want every Christian they meet to become a cookie-cutter copy of Swaggart like they are. Confront them with the emphasis on the “cross alone” and they will deny it and try to say they simply mean Jesus. Clearly that is not the case or they would not be trying to convert Christians.

Arrogance

Integral to Swaggart’s teaching of the cross is his insistence that all (or nearly all) churches are wrong and he alone has the truth. His Commentary is full of attacks upon the Church, saying it is evil, of the devil and reprobate while at the same time lifting up his ministry as the only one truly anointed of God. Rev. Swaggart writes:

“This Ministry is of God. Accordingly, we have a mandate from the Lord. That mandate is World Evangelism and, as well, the proclamation of the True Gospel, the “Message of the Cross.” In other words, the Church must be brought back to the Cross. The Lord has mandated this Ministry to help carry this out. In fact, that’s at least one of the reasons that the Lord gave me this great Revelation of the Cross in 1997.”

“This generation of Christians knows almost nothing about the cross…these Christians can be set free only by the Cross being preached to them.”[1]

“The answer which you seek is found in the Cross! The solution which you seek is found only in the Cross! And that’s the problem with the modern Church; it is building doctrines on other foundations.”

So you see the mindset: Swaggarites have the truth and all other Christians are miserable dupes drowning in sin and need to be delivered by Swaggart’s gospel. Watch their television program and you can see that daily they viciously attack and malign other ministries. They ooze with arrogance.

This arrogance and cultic mentality is empowered by demonic hatred for the Church and Swaggarites become infected with it as they lecture every Christian they can about their supposed need to come to the cross. This of course leads to alienation and kills any effective witness they may have otherwise had to unbelievers.

The natural result is a backlash and rejection of the perverted Swaggart gospel, and this is interpreted for them by Swaggart, who tells them that it is hate for the cross, the offense of the cross and they go on and on about how all the ministers and Christians today reject the cross. Of course, they do not. They simply reject Swaggart’s perversion of the Bible’s true teaching of the cross.

So the result: Arrogance, resulting in sinful disrespectful behavior that can separate friends and family.

Stunted Spiritual Growth

Swaggarites are fond of quoting 1 Corinthians 2:2 where the Apostle Paul tells the Corinthians,

“I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified,”

This is their proof text and excuse for magnifying the importance of the cross beyond its scriptural place. However by so doing they totally ignore the context of the passage and the reason Paul says that. And that reason is that they were too immature for anything more. The Apostle Paul tells the Corinthians,

I could not address you as people who live by the Spirit but as people who are still worldly—mere infants in Christ.  I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly.”

The doctrine of substitutionary atonement is milk. That’s what the Apostle Paul said. It is what a baby Christian needs. When you get saved, either just before or just after someone accepts Christ, then they are taught that Jesus’ shed blood washes away their sins. This is basic first teaching, what the apostle calls “milk, not solid food.” Paul explained he had to give them milk for a little longer than normal because they were behaving as immature Christians, but he was eager for them to grow and move on to solid food. The writer of Hebrews explains the same thing. Look here what he says:

In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.  But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.”

So the Bible’s preaching of the cross is milk. Milk is great you when you are baby. You die without it. The Bible’s preaching of the cross is the power of God unto salvation. Please note: I speak of the Bible’s preaching of the cross, not Swaggart’s “message of the cross,” which (by Swaggart’s own words) is different from what Paul understood and what the Church has taught for two thousand years. The Bible’s preaching of the cross tells us that we can’t earn our salvation by works of the law, but rather it is a free gift, purchased by Christ’s shed blood on the cross at Calvary.

The Bible’s cross is what you teach baby Christians or people you are leading to Christ. It is important for them to know what Jesus did for them. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the foundation and chief cornerstone (not the cross, but Jesus) and the Bible’s teaching on the cross is basic doctrine which you are first taught. It is milk. The writer of Hebrews chided them saying, “you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again.” He was not commending them, but scolding them! He was saying, “You have to go back to grade school again!”

Milk is powerful. It gives life to a baby. But what would happen if you fed a baby nothing but milk all of its life and never ever gave him solid food?  He would be a sickly child. His growth would be stunted. He could die early. You have to proceed to solid food. You might extend the milk for a little while, but at some point you have to move on. Swaggartism teaches that all you ever need is milk. That’s’ what Swaggart says – “nothing before the cross, nothing after because there doesn’t have to be anything after.” That is his exact quote.

So his followers don’t mature. They stay on milk. Doctrine alone does not give life. Only Jesus can do that. Dead dry dogmatic doctrine alone does not save anyone. Swaggart takes a peculiar doctrine he found in some old dusty book, twists it into something different, then lies and  says his new revelation is from God and is the real foundation, instead of Jesus Christ, and then he teaches his followers to “constantly make the cross the object of your faith.” Nowhere does the Bible say that. It teaches Jesus is the foundation and object of our faith. Swaggart’s message is a deceitful doctrine, so close to the truth to be undetected by the unsuspecting, but wrong nevertheless.

Swaggart’s twisted message is not even real milk; its spoiled milk. Constantly thinking about the cross, the cross, the cross is not going to make anyone more kind and loving. Swaggart’s twisted theology does not give anyone victory over sin. It will only delude and blind to one’s real self, so that the log in thine own eye is unseen, only the splinter in someone else’s.

And no matter what one does, without love, even if you suffer for Christ and deliver your body up to be burned – it amounts to nothing if you have not love. That is what the Bible says. Love from a pure heart. That is the aim of the Bible’s teaching.

The Bible’s real teaching on the cross is a beautiful and magnificent thing that center’s on Jesus and the love of the Father for us in sending his only unique son to die and shed his blood for us, and that precious sinless blood washes away our sins. The cross exemplifies Jesus self-denial and sacrifice of Himself because He loves us. But an overemphasis on the cross, to the exclusion of Christ’s loving reality in our lives, detracts from devotion to Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our faith. We mature in Christ only as we grow in closeness to our Savior. Anything that detracts from that emphasis will impede spiritual growth.

The result: Swaggart’s teaching will leave a Christian weak and anemic.

Sanctification Slowed

Swaggart teaches that by thinking the cross, the cross, the cross, that somehow a person is magically set free from temptation and sin and one rises above it all, operating on a higher Christian plane. Of course this is nothing but brainwashing and mental gymnastics. But because they are told repeatedly that this works and this delivers them, they come to believe it. Instead of seeing their sin and dealing with it. They are numbed into thinking their sin doesn’t exist at all. It is all washed away by the cross. They become blind to their own shortcomings.

Sanctification is the process of a believer gradually and continually growing in the knowledge and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and more and more overcoming old habits and defeating the temptations of the deeds of the flesh and ever more producing the fruit of the Spirit in their life; love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, self-control, etc.

This is a process. It is empowered by the Holy Spirit. Our old nature is dealt a death blow when we get saved, but the old man keeps trying to come back. That is why Paul called it fighting the good fight. He said he pummeled his body and brought it into subjection. The Bible clearly teaches that though it is God who sanctifies us, we must cooperate in that process.

God will use many things to sanctify us. The Word of God, for one. Jesus said, “You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.” (John 15:3) David said, “I have hid Thy word in my heart that I might not sin against Thee.” God uses many things to work out our sanctification: Other Christians, our church fellowship, the counsel of others, prayer, fasting, and sometimes, he uses pain: “Therefore, since Christ has suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same purpose, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin.” As we make an effort to draw near to God he draws near to us and sin begins to evaporate from our lives, burned away by the presence of the Son of God.

There is much that can and should be said about sanctification, how it works and how we can take steps to become more sanctified. But the point to be made here is that Swaggart’s teaching short circuits all of these vital things which God wants to use to sanctify us. By focusing entirely upon the mental trickery of meditating on the cross alone perpetually, the important teaching of how sanctification really works is ignored.

So the result: Swaggarites do not grow in grace and in sanctification as they should.

Church Dropout

Swaggart emphasizes strongly that nearly all churches are of the devil, teach false doctrine, and that Christians should leave those churches and only go where Swaggart’s message of the cross is taught. Since places (fortunately) are few and far between that teach Swaggartism, Jimmy Swaggart Ministries (JSM) has launched an online church. You can sign up and send your tithes to JSM.

Once Swaggartism has run its course, the individual may leave their local church and just watch Swaggart on TV and send their tithe to him. This is of course the main goal of JSM, for in the end, they are about money, not ministry. Swaggart’s fleet of Mercedes, his multi-million dollar mansions, and his $30,000 Rolex watch speak for that, but for more evidence see John Camp’s Video on our video page.

So the result: A Swaggarite loses the vital contacts with other believers in a local church, misses out on working together with others and the resultant growth that comes from rubbing elbows with other Christians. The local church is God’s plan for the believer and Swaggartism may ultimately lead one out of the church.

Conclusion

The effects of Swaggartism are that a person becomes fanatical over a false doctrine, rather than in love with Jesus. They become arrogant and mean-spirited towards other Christians. They are stunted in their spiritual growth, being immature in their knowledge of God, taking in only milk, and not solid spiritual food. Their sanctification is slowed as they become anemic in their growth, failing to practice those things necessary to overcome sin. Finally, they drop out of church all together, imaging they are above all that and have come to the one true church.

 

 

 

 

 

[1] The Evangelist, January 2004, From Me to You

26 Comments

  1. I found this site when I was looking to see if anyone had written anything negative about Jimmy Swaggart. Because I made a donation for bibles ( because I want everyone to have a bible),to be sent overseas and I ordered one of his expository bibles. I thought it was gonna be like some of the commentaries I look at, but it didn’t take me but a few chapters of reading to find out that he was changing Gods word in the bible. I didn’t listen to his preaching just like the singing. I didn’t realize the bibles he was sending was his and now his false doctrine is all over the world. I prayed and ask God/ Jesus to forgive me as I was ignorant of what his bible said. My question now is what do I do with this bible. I put it away, but it still has God and Jesus teaching in it so I don’t feel I could just throw it away or destroy it. What are your thoughts. I have throughly enjoyed reading your site. Thanks for some inside I didn’t think about. Thanks Debra

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    1. Hi Debra and thank you for your comment. I believe you are liberty to do whatever you want with the Swaggart Bible. We are under grace and not law, so if you toss it out so no one can be influenced by the false teaching, I believe that is Ok. What matters is what your conscience says. If in doubt, don’t. Thats a good rule of thumb. I have a suggestion. You might take a highlighter and mark some of the blatant false teachings in it. You can find them quickly if you read my article on this site called, The Swaggart Bible. Then if anyone tries to tell you that Swaggart doesn’t teach such and so, then you can pull out his Bible and prove it to them. Thanks again for you writing. God Bless!

      …Pastor Mark

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      1. This is what I was needing, spiritual awakening not for myself but for my mother…I pray she will be loosed from such abomination of this curse.

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        1. Hi Matt, I’m so glad this site has been a help to you. My prayers are with you that you can use this information to help your mother get free from the cult of Swaggartism. It has deceived so very many people and blinded them to the truth. God bless and let me know if I can help in any way.

          …Pastor Mark

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  2. Yes, thank you Pastor Mark. But I can’t believe the church in that form… It’s revelation of clear scripture. The help I have gained in prayers has been revealed by my mother not listening or watching Jimmy because it’s lies. Also I need to get my other brother and his wife Sharrie to understand the message of the cross and becoming in Christ and to grow beyond the cross. I also have seen many hand signs from these also in audience. Devil signatures in that church is far too deviant and sad…

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  3. I look at it this way. If you start to button a shirt wrong, the rest of the shirt is off. That’s also true with doctrine. If it starts wrong in the beginning, it’s not straight at the end. His extra biblical knowledge starting with Genesis ( or the other world he talks about before Genesis) is nothing more than his opinion and closely resembles other cults. When I see some of the comments, I realize they have not ” escaped the error ” as the Bible points out. To many people feel that God has gray areas in everything. Not so, he is very black or white. Life or death. Blessing or cursing. I could go on and on with many of his words. Swaggert is either 100% right or 100% wrong. God does not accept mixture., especially from someone who claims to be a teacher.

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  4. Thank you Pastor Mark. Very astute! I thought it was nearly Pentecostal. Now I see it’s doctrine is more devisive than that. This article totally defines a friend that I was unable to unprogram. Swaggartism destroyed her marriage and then she turned on me for trying to help her.

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    1. Hi Chris, Wow, Swaggartism destroyed their marriage! I am not surprised. I am always amazed at the number of people who comment that Swaggartism caused a rift in family relations. You will know them by their fruit. Thanks for your comment. God Bless,

      Pastor Mark

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  5. I’ve been watching SBN off and on for about 6 months now. We just started getting SBN in my area and I wanted to know what Jimmy was teaching these days. I haven’t heard about him since he had his fall in the late 80’s.

    I’ve noticed that Jimmy rarely preaches anything new or different. It’s all about the cross. His show Message of the Cross is the same ole same ole day after day. Plus, the people who are on his show rarely, if ever disagree with him. After reading what Mishel McCumber had to say about his ministry I’ve decided that the whole family is phony. I suspected it but now there’s facts backing it up.

    I remember listening to Frances talk about how sinful gambling and drinking is yet it seems they allow some of the insiders liberty to do those things. At least the drinking. When Jimmy said no booze had ever touched his lips I suspected he was lying too. I’ve also noticed he gets Loren Larsen to talk about all his past sins yet Jimmy has never talked about his days with hookers. Could it be he’s still involved with hookers? Or, maybe just porn? I don’t know. I just know there’s a spirit of deception about this whole ministry. I’ve never given a dime to these phonies and never will. The twice a month beg-a-thon turns me off. Plus all the selling of books, tapes, videos etc. is no different from regular TV with scores of commercials.

    Thanks again for all your hard work in showing us what really goes on in this wolves in sheeps clothing ministry

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    1. Hi Debra, Thanks for your reply and your encouraging words. You are certainly correct – a spirit of deception is in their ministry. Your point about how the preach almost exclusively “the cross,” is an interesting point, for it shows another way that the ministry is so bad – Christians don’t get a balanced diet from the Scripture. There is so much other great stuff in God’s word that people need to hear. God Bless,

      …Pastor Mark

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  6. Does anyone know what happened between Donnie Swaggart and Johnny Lee Cleary? One day it was like he disappeared. When people called in on Francis and friends and asked about him Donnie said ” you will never see him on here again” it was like Johnny was swept under the rug. No one ever spoke his name again. Then one day on Francis she said Johnny Lee passed away and that was all that was said. I thought he was such a good friend of the Swaggarts, but I Guess they don’t put to much into friends. I am done with the Swaggarts for good. All my materials and books are going in the trash. I heard Jimmy one day say that if there were any widows out there that want to leave their money toSBN to let them know. I thought that was horrible.

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    1. Hy Lynn, I have seen this before with the Swaggarts, where they seem to just suddenly cut people off, even family members. If you watch the Swaggart Seduction Video on this site, there is a clip that talks about the time when the Swaggarts used its ministry print shop to print CD covers for Hip-Hop Bands and area night clubs using non-profit equipment and employees. Around this time there was a falling out between the Swaggarts and other family members…a brother, or brother in law, I think it was…He says on the video that there is no contact with them any more after how the Swaggarts falsely accused them. Here is more info from another site on the print ship scandal: http://deceptionbytes.com/jimmy-swaggart-printing-scandal/ Take note of the comments on that site about the van with scantily dressed women on it, that was often in the church parking lot. Concerning people disappearing, one of the prostitutes called Sexy Suzi which Swaggart consorted with disappeared, to never be seen again. Here is a link to info on that: http://deceptionbytes.com/unfinished-business-swaggart-and-a-prostitute-named-sexy-suzi/ In view of Swaggart’s past history of threatening murder (see seduction video) it gives one pause to wonder what happened to these prostitutes.

      …Pastor Mark

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  7. One of the main scriptures Swaggart uses is “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”
    ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    http://bible.com/1/1co.1.18.kjv

    Can you explain this verse? What do you say when they use it as key verse?
    Thanks

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    1. Hi Donny, That is a great question. We can easily tell what the Apostle Paul means by the “preaching of the cross” by simply reading all he says in the New Testament, which in a nutshell is: Christ humbled himself and became obedient to the Father and suffered death on the cross so that his shed blood would atone for our sins. Furthermore, that Jesus rose from the dead, sent the Holy Spirit to us and Jesus lives to make intercession for us.

      When we repent of our sins, put our faith in Jesus and determine to follow him, we are born again to a new life, our sins are washed away by his atonement on the cross. Christ promises to continue his sanctifying work in us through the Holy Spirit as we continue to seek him and walk in his light. That is Paul’s “Preaching of the cross.”

      This teaching was in direct conflict with what the Jews were looking for. They wanted a conquering glorious Messiah to deliver them from the Romans. They did not understand that first Christ came to serve and to suffer and die on a cross. They did not understand that animal blood atonement was merely a foreshadow of Christ’s atonement on the cross. Thus, the idea of a suffering messiah was nonsense to the Jews. We are told in Philippians 2:5-8, “Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who…humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.” This just wasn’t what the world thinks is cool. The Jews (and many Gentiles) rejected the whole idea of a suffering Messiah, which is what Paul had in mind when he says that “the preaching of the cross is foolishness to them that are perishing.”

      Swaggart’s preaching of the cross is easily determined by what he says in his writings. (He is more cautious on TV, since big money is at stake). Basically he reiterates the following points, ad nauseam: His preaching, which he calls the message of the cross, is the gospel according to him. According to Swaggart’s own words, what he teaches is different from what the church today teaches. In other words, Swaggart admits that he has a different gospel from what the Church has.

      Specifically what Swaggart teaches is this, and this is what he means by the message of the cross: The church is in error. Jimmy Swaggart is an end-time apostle appointed by God to restore the true gospel to the church. Only churches that follow Swaggart’s teaching are true churches. The others are all devilish churches. Swaggart’s preaching of the cross is a new revelation that the church did not have before, or did not have in its fullness. Swaggart’s new revelation sheds more light than what any of the apostles or anyone in church history has ever understood before and that by mentally thinking “the cross” and by imagining and continually performing mental gymnastics about the cross and what happened there you will be delivered from sin and then walk an overcoming life, and that nothing else is needed or used to sanctify us.

      The Church, on the other hand, teaches what the Bible says: That Christ miraculously works in us through His Spirit to sanctify us as we walk with Him and cooperate with his work in us. God uses The Word of God, Christian Fellowship, Prayer, Self-Discipline, and Suffering to purify us. I expound further on this in my article, The Message of the Cross. It is here: http://www.christiananswerman.com/message-of-the-cross/ Thanks Donny for the excellent question!

      …Pastor Mark

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  8. Pastor mark is it wrong to donate to the share a thon if this is where we are fed.I agree there most likely is error in the teaching but nobody else on tv i find any better when it comes to preaching the word even going back to the 1980s Crusaders are still some amazing sermons and spiritual music and people were there so my question is am i wrong to give to sbn if this is my church.

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    1. Hi Kyle, Thank you for your question. You mentioned that Swaggart is “where we are fed.” The New Testament is clear that a Christian should belong to a local church and to not “forsake the assembling of yourselves together.” Only by being part of a local church can you be in an environment where you can use the gifts of the Holy Spirit and be of service to others. You can do nothing for the body of Christ sitting at home watching TV. God wants us to work together, to forgive one another, to love one another. In order to grow in Christ you must be part of a local body of believers that have organized themselves according to Biblical principles. To do otherwise is to be walking in disobedience to the Word of God.

      So the local church is where you should be getting fed and where you need to be to be feeding others. Your tithes and offerings rightfully should be going to that local church. If after that you still have money left over that you want to give somewhere else, that is fine. But you want to make sure that the “somewhere else” is a Christian ministry that handles money responsibly and is doing the work of God.

      In this regard, the Swaggarts fail miserably. If you give to them, the money will go to continue their lavish lifestyle. Does Jimmy really need a $30,000 Rolex watch purchased with donations from Christians? Does he need the expensive country club membership that costs $45,000 annually?. In 1995 the Swaggart’s personal income was in excess of 300,000 a year. Donnie Swaggart’s was a quarter of a million dollars. Today it would be much more. They have used donations from Christians to build a real estate empire that was bringing in 2 million dollars a year in the 90’s.

      I recommend you read through the comments on this site and read the comments from people that have had their families torn apart because some family member became a Swaggarite and thus became as obnoxious as the Swaggarts. Do you really want to be giving money to an organization that destroys families and encourages people to abandon their churches? Then there is the false doctrine being spewed forth by the Swaggarts. Do you really think Jesus wants you to be giving money that promotes teaching that is contrary to Scripture?

      You mentioned that you cannot find anyone else better on TV that preaches the word. First of all, many of the things the Swaggarts say are not the true teaching of scripture. Some of it is, but not all. Many people today are fooled into thinking that being eloquent and speaking with conviction and charisma is the same thing as anointing from God. It is not the same. Even Hitler could speak with charisma and move the masses into believing his lies. Remember, the word says that Satan will appear as an angel of light in order to try to deceive the elect.

      And finally, it is not on TV that you should be looking for an anointed preacher of the Word. Anyone with money can preach on TV. Go to the local church, where the preacher is accountable to the people, where he is a man who lives and works among you. A TV preacher can live a sinful lifestyle and you would never know it. Swaggart admitted that he went to prostitutes for 20 years while preaching the gospel. Even after he was finally caught and then confessed on public TV and cried tears of supposed repentance, he went out and got caught two more times after that with prostitutes and pornography.

      So, to answer your question, consider what I say here, pray about it, and ask God to show you what to do. The Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth. God bless,

      …Pastor Mark

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      1. Thank you pastor mark for your input ive watched jimmy since 2011 and i can see what your saying to be true at times.The bible does say not to forsake the assembly and i heard jimmy telling people in the 1980s Crusaders to get out of the church if its dead and the preacher is preaching dead sermons but he also said to find a church somewhere where the preacher is full of the Holy Ghost and preaches without fear or favor. And i belive your right about that belonging to a church ive had some bad experiences with some of the local ones here in North West Arkansas i hope god willing i can find one the Holy Spirit shows me i belive the devil is in the churches though but we should have discernment to see it and like u say no the word if god so we can tell what is false doctrine i would love to hear you preach if you have any u tube videos please send them to me. Thank pastor Mark for takeing the time to share insight on this even though i was inspired by jimmys preaching over the years and i can see what your saying to beware but ive even heard swaggart say back in 1987 i dont care whose preaching it if im preaching it Jerry Falwell if what the preacher saying does not line up with the word of god he is not preaching the word of god.

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        1. HI Kyle, What Swaggart said in the 80s about if your church is dead, find a church where the pastor is full of the Holy Spirit…that is all fine. Good advice. However, what he teaches today is entirely different. The Swaggarts now teach that all the churches in America that don’t accept his peculiar doctrinal twist which they call the Message of the Cross, that if they don’t accept that, then that church is of the devil. They very clearly state that most churches are now of the devil. This of course is wrong and is a clear mark of a cult.

          Since you requested to hear me preach, I dug up a sermon I preached, digitized it, and put on this website. Click the link below:

          Scroll to the bottom of the videos and look for “Sermon – Pastor Mark Preaching at Phoenix Dream Center.” I hope you enjoy it. I’ve enjoyed hearing from you. God bless, and don’t hesitate to write.

          …Pastor Mark

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          1. Hello Mark enjoyed your sermon on the man u minsterd too in the hot tub being used by god to speak and the testing of Christian life and how we all fail god at times and not to let the the sun nature bring it ugly head back up great sermon some true experiences I’ve also encountered. I have a video on u tube I posted it’s called preaching on cults just type that in utube you will find this amusing Jimmy was preaching the same message you are preaching now in this sermon about cults of course this was years ago but still it’s very interesting please watch and let me know God bless.

          2. Hi Kyle, I’m glad you enjoyed my sermon. I watched the video clip you posted of Swaggart preaching about cults. That was good preaching. What is so interesting about it is how in that old video he emphasized we don’t need any writings but the Bible, that the scripture is the ultimate authority for Christian faith and practice. And that is true. However, look at what he says now – He claims that the most important thing for a Christian to know can only be found in his writings and his ministry! Look at this video and see how he has changed. Here is the link:

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              The video is toward the bottom of the article.

              …Pastor Mark

          3. I think Jimmy sufferd a nervous breakdown after all the stuff came out on him on the lust problem,and I think maybe that’s why he came to this conclusion of what he’s preaching today because if u look at his preaching in the 1980s it was way more biblical teaching but we should all pray for Jimmy that god will show him the correction and if he is in errors to turn from teaching them prayer does work and true Christians prayer can be affective please pray for Jimmy swaggart and his ministry.

          4. Hi Kyle, You are absolutely correct. The extreme stress caused by his sin has had a terrible effect upon him. Have you noticed the facial tick that he has? He jerks his head in a downward motion every few seconds while speaking. This is no doubt stress induced.

            His essay on the cross does not begin with scripture but begins with his own sin and pain. The opening sentence begins, “Public humiliation, especially on a worldwide basis is trauma that many people never get over. When one has failed…” This is telling. His revelation springs from his trauma, rather than from God.

            When the Assemblies of God mercifully said he could keep his ministerial credentials if he would step down from ministry for one year and receive counseling, he refused, told them that he “heard directly from God” and that they were “too dumb and stupid.” Rather than humbly falling on Jesus’ mercy and putting all his hope in the mercy and forgiveness of God, as a defense mechanism his mind came up with this supposed revelation and now he says the reason he sinned is because the Church didn’t have this special revelation.

            So now, instead of humbly rejoicing in God’s forgiveness for his failure, he puts the blame off of himself and onto the supposed ignorance of the Church, pridefully claiming that now God has raised him up as the only man in all the earth and in all of history to have been given this great revelation.

            I agree totally about praying for Jimmy. I pray for him regularly. I consider it my duty. Since I have went to the effort to expose his false teaching, I think it equally important that I pray for him that he would repent of this nonsense. I really sincerely hope that he does. That would be so wonderful. I would be most eager to throw my arms around him in a Christian hug and welcome into the family of God as a totally forgiven brother in Christ. I mean that most sincerely.

            Unfortunately his riches, fame and notoriety have him in their evil grasp and I pray that before he dies he comes to his senses. Not only for himself, but for the countless others who have had their families destroyed by his ministry. Every week I hear from people whose families are ripped apart by Swaggartism. I just heard of someone who quit their church to join a Swaggarite church and the week before from someone whose mother won’t speak to them anymore because they won’t become Swaggarites also. Swaggart’s delusion has caused untold suffering and heartache in the Church.

            I want to thank you for letting me know about that clip of Swaggart’s preaching on cults that you had posted. I have used that clip in a new clip I have made that compares what he said then to what he says now. Take a look, I think you’ll find it interesting. Just click the link below. It is here: https://youtu.be/nSAyR0xFLBQ

            …Pastor Mark

  9. I just wanna say to every body who may read this unthinkable Jimmy swaggert is the best charismatic television preacher I’ve ever seen And I find his music comforting and nice. I’ve seen some amazing sermons preached by Brother Swaggart that were truly helpful to me. But Mark us right we gave to be able to discern what’s scripture and sound doctrine andvtge true word of god.Hear me all people when I say this to you no man is going to get me or you to heaven and what that man says is the way.Only what Jesus Christ says is what will get u truly saved and able to discern between what’s right and deception if we’ve truly love Jimmy Swaggart as true brothers and sisters in Christ we will show reproof and speak the truth and not twist the word ofgod to cover are sinful doings we must all give account for every idle word Jesus says that’s means what is not said for he’s good we can not endorse man over Jesus Christ but we must endorse The authority of Christ Jesus and his words over any man’s interpretation of the word of god and not follow a man but follow Jesus do are best to live for Jesus Christ not use the cross for are excuse to keep the evil but go to the cross to truly leave it there and move forward in Christ even though that’s not easy please think about what is being said here don’t follow a man follow the word of Jesus Christ the true Savior who died on the cross so we may have life and gave it more abundantly.

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